I left him go up into the attic by himself to save my knee.
He came down and we stood in the bathroom. He looked at the clawfoot tub. He said, "I'd probably pull this, actually. Tenants tend to overfill them. It just makes an awful mess."
"You'd rent it then?"
"Yeah," he said. "That's what we had intended..."
He walked down in the basement. By that time, Tim was done with the couple so he was able to give the man the highlights. New hot water heater. New forced air furnace. New duct work replaced old radiators which no longer worked.
He and Tim stood outside talking. He said, "Do you know how old the roof is?" Tim said, "Yes. That was the first thing we did was replace the roof. New sheeting too."
The man said, "Let me get my phone. I want to take my wife through." She is a local realtor in town.
We sat in the living room as he took his wife through a virtual tour. We heard snippets of his conversation. "Foundation's great. New furnace and hot water heater. Yeah. Heat upstairs. The rough wiring is all done." He went upstairs, still talking. "The staircase is great."
He was upstairs for quite a while.
We waited in the livingroom. He went outside and walked around the house. Tim said, "He's really pleased with the hardiebacker board siding." He stood in the back yard talking for several more minutes.
Finally, he came back in.
He said, "So...I imagine that you're wanting to move on this quickly."
I said, "We've got someone coming tomorrow who seems pretty serious, so no, we're not going to rush."
It was the truth. A woman loves the house, has done renovation work before, was talking to her bank about how to finance it that day, was taking a half day off work to come tour the house Friday.
"So...no..." I continued. "We're comfortable waiting to see what happens. What we're not willing to do is start negotiating a price at this point. We had a woman who felt our starting point was too high and began telling me how much it would cost to finish up the house. I didn't debate it with her, but we're not desperate, and we know how much work we've put into it too."
He said, "You're right. Your price is very fair. The rough wiring...I'm doing that in my house right now. I hate it..." Tim said, "Yeah. It takes forever." He said, "My house was all knob and tube." Tim said, "So was this. It's gone now." The guy gestured up at the lights in coffered ceiling. "I don't imagine that you changed these out." Tim said, "Yes. That's been replaced." The man looked surprised. "It has?" (Tim did it through the exterior walls when he was working on the front porch and the second story bedroom floor above the livingroom.)
The man said, "We are very, very interested in this house," and "I want to come back this weekend and bring our contractor with me. She's from down state and couldn't come today. I want my wife to see it too. Is that possible?"
We agreed to it. I told him his wife had my number, and that they could call whenever they wanted to set it up. He looked around and then he said the thing that Tim had said five years before. "You know, I really don't think this is a rental. This is a beautiful house. I think it would have to be a flip."
So, I don't know what is going to happen for sure. But we seem to have one solid, another potential solid, as well as two brothers who flip houses who are discussing it, and another flipper who is in Florida but wants to see it when he gets back.
It looks very promising at this point, but we're not counting chickens before they are hatched.
Someone wondered why we were working so hard. It's like this. We've been doing this for almost 20 years now. We started this during the last recession. We bought our first house for $1500. It was awful. Unlivable. Holes in the floor. It's a two unit rental now, and never sits empty. That investment has paid itself off many times over the last 15 years.
But Tim sees houses and he knows. He absolutely knows what makes a house good. Those are the houses that we flip. We have bought some doozies. It was a couple years of hard work, on each of them, minimally, but we've always, always made big money off the sale of these houses. He has the knack.
I strongly argued against this last purchase because I simply did not want to start another big project. I mean, we knew that he wanted to build a retirement home. He'd already bought the property. All this rehab was going to do was to delay our plan for the new house.
But Tim wanted one more last big deal before riding off into the sunset. He argued his point and did not back down. I gave in.
When Tim bought this last house, the very first thing we had to do was to make it weather tight, so windows and a new roof were the first priority. That was quite an undertaking. It was a hoarder's house, and it was every bit as bad as the houses you see on reality television, so once it was sealed up against the elements, we spent months hoeing it out. We found treasure though, so we had to go through it carefully. Only then could we start working on the place.
Then Tim got sick. And then he got sick again, very sick, so that delayed our work.
And after years of trying to arrange it, we had someone to pour concrete for the new house. Amazingly, we were able to get someone to dig the basement as well. When the stars align like that, you have to move on it, because it may be years before it happens again.
Again, the rehab went on hold.
And then Tim got cancer.
Another delay.
Long story short, we ended up having the rehab for far longer than we'd ever expected. Five years. The insurance company gave us a year's extension because of Tim's health problems but they told us that they would not insure an empty house for any longer than that, so we had a deadline to have the rehab done by November, which really put the pressure on, especially since we knew I was having a knee replacement in May.
And we had all this stuff we wanted to do on the new house but couldn't because of the deadline, and shit started getting tense, and then I had my big ol' hissy fit, and...well...
That's what happened.
PS: Everyone get remember to get their post cards mailed out on the 15th!
Phew! But it looks like it will all end well for you now. Here's to a speedy conclusion. 🍾🥂
ReplyDeleteVery promising! It's great to have several possible options! It IS a beautiful house, based on the photos you've shown us. I agree with the guy that it's too nice to be a rental -- not that rentals shouldn't be nice, but this place has a lot of special touches.
ReplyDeleteCan you keep the pocket doors for your retirement house? They ARE cool. Glad you have lots of offers. Nice to know you can choose to sell to a flip for an owner that might keep that claw tub and understands the heart and soul of such a cool house. Relax and enjoy sliding into a real retirement, eh, maybe? Linda in Kansas
ReplyDeleteYou have done all the hard work and the prospective buyer can see an easy journey to the winning line. It sounds very promising.
ReplyDeleteThis all sounds very good. You're going to do well with it.
ReplyDeleteWow this is really happening--good for you Debby. I don't know how you managed to keep up this pace for this long.
ReplyDeleteYou do tell of your doings in an interesting way. It's a gift.
ReplyDeleteWhat a gift that hissy fit has brought you.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad it will be off your hands shortly. A big relief.
ReplyDeleteAnd Anvil Cloud is right, you are a gifted writer.
ReplyDeleteWhat a saga! When I first read your post from a couple of days ago I thought the houses were your residences and you didn't want to move again. Now I see it was a money making endeavor.
ReplyDeleteBTW I mailed my 5 postcards early!
Glad you are getting so much interest in it. Hope it goes smoothly and quickly. I mailed my card yesterday.
ReplyDeleteYou had spoken a little bit about the renovated projects. When you are young and fit and doing what you love (or at least like) it is fun and even exciting. And this last house could have been a masterpiece. But sometimes life throws you curveballs and you have to roll with them. Who could believe all these roadblocks for completion. I am glad you are taking you time. It sounds like you have several buyers who appreciate the time you are taking to do things right. I know we have some couples in my town who work as quickly and cheaply as possible. I recognize their houses the moment they are posted. Cheap but new carpet on all floors, Cheap but shiny new tub/shower insert. Sparkling white painted ceilings and woodwork. Barn doors. Everything in trendy gray, beige and white, the Pottery Barn/Target palette. I know for a fact it is the original wiring and furnace and the young buyers are getting more problems than they bargain for. One couple are both teachers and everything starts in June and goes up for sale in August. That tells you something.
ReplyDeleteI know exactly what you're talking about. There was a house down the street from us. I've never seen such a poor renovation. None of the structural stuff was tended to. Wonky walls were covered up with a textured paint to hide the damage. The floors sagged and dropped. The 'en suite' was a renovated closet, tiny, barely functional. But, it had a showstopper kitchen and new carpeting everywhere. The carpeting was not going to hold up, and there was no padding. They didn't even fix the roof!
DeleteIt sounds like you have a lot of genuinely interested parties.
ReplyDeleteWith all the hard work you've already put into the house I'm sure you'll make a nice profit on it. What a relief it will be to be done with doing extra houses. ;) So glad you have several people seriously interested right off the bat. Have a fabulous weekend. :)
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like fixing up houses has worked out well and paid off. But like does throw things at us, so stepping aside makes sense now. I hope one of these potential buyers comes thru.
ReplyDeleteThat's a long history. When things go bad it's terrible. When things go well we're on top of the world.
ReplyDeleteThat's quite a story! It takes a knowing eye to recognize when a house has good bones and can be restored. And 20 years, wow, that's a career! Does it come with a 401k? Just kidding, it sounds like you guys have earned every bit of the profits you've earned. And you have recycled houses that might have been bulldozed, so well done!
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