Saturday, August 26, 2023

A Rather Astonishing Day

 Tim wanted to have a morning with his son this morning, and so I am at home. I had a bunch of small things to take care of. A haircut to schedule. She had a cancellation and can take me Wednesday ~yay! Usually it takes me at least a week to get in. 

We received a telephone book. It lists 'Jamestown/Warren and Vicinity', but we were surprised to see that it was completely New York phone numbers and businesses (not that we use Yellow Pages any more, in any case) Flipping through the phone book, we noticed that a great deal of it is 'fluff'. 'Recording Podcasts ~ The Basics'.  'A History of the Yellow Pages' (the first one dates back to 1875 in case you're curious). Another page was 'Know Your State Capitols!' And 'How to Stay Healthy!' Even a page devoted to 'Removing Stains' and other helpful laundry tips. 

I made up my mind to cancel this complete waste of paper and time and energy, and listed on the front of the book was an opt out site. I set the book by the computer so that the next time I sat down at my keyboard, I could take care of that. 

Today was the day, and so I typed in the URL. It would not allow me to opt out until I registered. I hate stuff like that, because you know that your information is being sold, but with no choice, I went ahead and did. It was not complicated, but it took time. For whatever reason they kept insisting that my address was not valid. It was. I compared it to the address on the book and it was exactly the same as I had entered. I clicked on 'accept address'. I had to wait for the code to be sent to my inbox and enter the code over here and blah blah blah. 

I finally got the information completed, and what to my wondering eyes should appear? I was told that I was not being sent directories so I had nothing to opt out of. 

I picked up my non-existant book, which felt remarkably existant, and walked it out the recycle bin.

Remember the saga of Gravity Defyer? They are now known as Guarantee Denyer in this house. To bring everyone up to speed, I ordered a pair of workboots for $235. The upper began to separate from the sole on both boots within 6 weeks of purchase. The company guarantees their product for 60 days. We should have been fine. However, the company refused to honor their 60 day warranty because Amazon has a 30 day return policy. 

We left off on this sad little saga where, on my 6th or 7th attempt to resolve this, the polite representative assured me that I would be covered under Amazon's A-Z Guarantee. I waited and received the reply from Amazon that I'd been denied. No explanation provided. 

So back I went, like an annoying mosquito. I initiated yet another conversation and was urged to file an appeal. I did that. Today I received the response. I was not covered under the Amazon A-Z Guarantee because the boots were not returned in the 30 day time frame. 

I voiced my disastisfaction in yet another polite chat. The ever polite customer service person  told me yet again that a claim has been filed against the seller. 



I commented that this has already been done. The chat got 'disconnected for technical issues'



It asked me if I wanted to end the conversation, but I didn't, actually. Jose, and then Lujo tapped in, and two more times, my chat got dropped for technical reasons. Still, I refused to end the chat and waited.

I really had given up all hope, but Nazaf came on the line. I explained the situation once again. I said that it was dishonest on the part of Gravity Defyer and that I'd been trying to resolve this for some time now. I said that I was simply noting my disastisfaction, and that I was filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.

Nazaf claims he has issued a full refund which I will see in 3-5 business days. 

We shall see. 

I know that I will never make another 3rd party purchase through Amazon again. 

I also want to take a minute here to thank everyone who has reached out and shared their own wisdom on our recent bump in the road. You have been more helpful than words can say. While I have dealt with my own cancer years back, this is a whole different ball game on a completely different field. I thank you all. 

LATE EDIT: the wrong order was credited to my account. I got on the computer once again and was told that I was not being honest. Now I am mad.

17 comments:

  1. Good for you for persevering.

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  2. Plenty to digest in that. Good luck with the claim. I'd have given up long ago. Why? A good old Scots saying "I couldnae be ersed". When it comes to cancer people are so much more understanding and helpful now that 25 years ago.

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  3. That's a great story of perserverance, and hopefully keeping your cool through the endless troubles with contacting those who supposedly will help you! Good job! Keep at them if you don't get a check soon! You are a model for me to follow with a creative bookkeeping department at the hospital where I had my cataracts out. They never have yet given me credit for the correct ammount, rather they make up amounts charged and say I paid that. I need to do this on next week!

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    1. The nice thing about the chat option is that you can choose your words. You can be as impatient as you want. Just choose your words carefully and they never know. Oddly, I was not impatient at all. In the grand scheme of things, I would either get the credit or I wouldn't, and it didn't matter in the long run.

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  4. Fingers crossed that you get that refund! It really shouldn’t be that hard!! I continue to send good vibes and wishes to you and Tim, and the whole family.. I’m glad you’re ‘carrying on’ while you await the next chapter❤️ XO, Ricki

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  5. Debby, add Famous Footwear to your watch list. I ordered a pair of Skechers from them this week, 9 1/2 extra wide, I received a pair of shoes the left one is nine, the right one is 8 and 1/2. Famous has a strict you pay for returns policy, I was on the phone with them three times demanding a prepaid return shipping label. They finally relented when I said I was contacting Visa to dispute the charge. But they still gave it to me in the end, they sent a FedEx label and there is no FedEx boxes in my vicinity.

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    1. Google FedEx drop offs. Here you can drop off at cvs. Dollar General does ups, I think.

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    2. Thanks Debby, but only CVS has UPS drop offs in my area... Fed Ex, participating Wal-Greens (and we have none). Ugh

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  6. I thought we were going to celebrate Nazaf for the win but then I read your last edit. Oh boy. I can't wait to hear how this ends up. Fingers crossed that it works out for you, Debby.

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  7. I am not keen on third party purchases, especially travel bookings. I use them but once I have a price, I usually contact the business direct and they will invariably match it. Keep on pushing forward.

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  8. All people should be very persitant as you are. too many of these businesses get away with things by carrying on until the customer gives up.

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  9. Please come visit me in Kansas City. I have a few items to clear up like that. I'm happy to hire you to make some calls. I usually wait until I'm mad at something, then delve into such call. Try L.L.Bean: they have paper catalogs and wonderful, durable items. They have all sorts of boots. I purchased some knee-high heavily-lined winter snow boots 40 years ago, and they look like new! Linda in Kansas

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  10. I hate it when companies insist on customers using their phone helplines to resolve issues, especially with my hearing impairment. I tried using the online chat option once but was told that the agent was not authorised to make the changes required so I would have to phone. In the end I got P to phone and I stood beside him as we conducted a three way conversation with a customer service agent. I would have given up but a lot of money for air fares would have been forfeited.

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  11. I can't remember the last time I received a yellow pages book. I would guess with google, they are even less relevant than a normal phonebook is now.

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  12. Oddly enough, I was just thinking about phone books and wondering if anybody used them anymore. I am not sure if we still get one dropped at the door every year or whether that has stopped.

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  13. You and my husband could rule the world with your persistence. He's been working on getting a charge taken off from a doctor's visit of mine for over a year. A YEAR! "Just pay it," I tell him. He won't. I think he's finally gotten it straightened out as in, he doesn't have to pay it.
    Ooh boy.

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  14. A phone book! Wow! I don't think I've even SEEN a phone book in years. I'm sure we've never had one here in England. We might have gotten one when we lived in New Jersey but we probably threw it away!

    I am impressed with your diligence on this Amazon thing. I think I would have given up by now! But that IS a lot of money for such a shoddy product.

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