Friday, August 15, 2025

Strange

 A few weeks ago, Mia, the young woman buying our rehab messaged me. The bank official wanted to speak with us, a 3 way call with us, Mia, and her on the line. I messaged back, asking why. Mia didn't know. She just needed to speak with us.

Mia has been working hard to get the house ready for the appraisal. We didn't want to do anything to jeopardize her loan. I said okay, and Tim and I would both be present for the conversation.

First, she rescheduled the call at the last minute because she was at the DMV. When she did call, she introduced herself, and said Mia was on the line as well. 

She was very giggly which struck me as odd. Very unprofessional. She also didn't seem to have a clear reason for calling. I was in the middle of painting trim. Tim and I looked at each other. 

I said, 'I am not really clear on what you need from us. We have never had the bank calling us before. Any questions would normally be answered by the lawyer."

She said, "Oh you have done this before then."

"Many times."

That giggle. "Well, I wanted you to know that I can handle the closing for you."

I said, "No. Our lawyer will handle this. Mia has signed paperwork to allow him to handle her side of it as well, since he's worked for her family in the past."

The woman said, "What is his phone number?"

"Just a second," I said, looking around for something to wipe my hands on. "I am not at home where the papers are..." and I gave her his name and his address.

Much to my surprise, she said, "Mia has given me the paperwork."

I was starting to be a little irritated. "If you have the paperwork, you will see his name. His address. His phone number."

She said, "here it is...I just looked it up."

"Is there anything else you need from us?"

She said, "Do you have any questions for me? I want you to know that I am here for you as well as Mia."

"We have no questions." 

And that was that. A very odd call. 

Immediately afterwards, Mia forwarded something that the bank officer wanted her to address with us. She wanted us to increase the asking price by $6000, agreeing to give Mia the extra money back. This would be to cover all the closing costs.

I was pretty shocked. We would never agree to that. I explained to Mia how it was done. The bank talks to the lawyer who gives her a full breakdown of the balance on the mortgage, the prorated taxes, the filing fees, the deed search, lawyer's fees. He takes care of properly dispersing the funds, and gives us a check for the asking price. To do it her way meant that the government would tax us on the full purchase price plus the $6000 we were expected to give back to her.

Yesterday, I got a call from the lawyer's office, and his clerk was pretty upset. The loan person got hold of them and was quite shockingly rude. She informed them that this deal needed to close by the end of the month. She claimed that we were demanding it. She also said she tried to talk to us about paying the closing costs and we had absolutely refused. 

I was shocked. It wasn't true. Not at all. Mia isn't speaking to us at this point. We had no idea what was going to happen.

Today, we signed the paperwork agreeing to an extension of the closing. The clerk was still pretty upset. "She has been sitting on this paperwork since mid-April and then gives us a two week notice?!!"

I said, "I am more upset that she flat out lied. We did not discuss paying the closing costs at all. Mia talked to us about increasing the asking price to cover the closing costs. I explained how it is properly handled and that those fees would be rolled right into the mortgage. We never demanded that it be done by the end of the month."

The clerk said, "I told her that under no circumstances is she to contact the sellers again. If she has questions, she calls us, not you. I told her the deadline is extended by one month and that both parties have agreed. I think she now realizes that she is not running the show."

Tim and I walked out of there feeling much better.

In other news,  I stepped into a hole and twisted the hell out of my new knee. 

Freddie is such a funny cat. He jumps on the porch rail and knocks on the door when he wants in, which is the funniest thing.

Chicks are so cute. They are quite playful.

So that is it. That's life on the funny farm.

42 comments:

  1. I'm glad you were on top of things. Especially the bank officer. I'd have wondered if she really was who she said she was. Sounded like a scam. I hope it works out.
    Sorry about your knee and I hope it's feeling better now.

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    1. How many scams begin with with 'I sent you too much...can you refund me xxxx?'

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  2. Yes, that sounds totally like a scam to me. I would never discuss such matters on the phone with anyone. You have sorted it out with the bank now, thank goodness. Greetings from Susan in S W France

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  3. That did sound like a scam to me...glad you could sort that out

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    1. When are you leaving for France? Can't wait to hear about your adventures.

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  4. I didn't understand a word of that bank/legal stuff, but I hope it all works out OK. I also thought scam when I first started reading it!

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    1. I simply could not understand why the subject even came up.

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  5. If that is a local bank I think I would be tempted to have a quiet word in the manager's ear next time you are passing.

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    1. I will need to do some looking into the company.

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  6. First thing I thought was SCAM! There seems to be no end to those. Good damn thing this was not your first rodeo, and you had things well in hand. That's adorbs that Freddie can knock on the door to be let in! Never a dull moment!

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    1. It was a shock to hear someone at the door and see his little face peering in the window. The chicks are cute as can be.

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  7. I hope bridges have been rebuilt with you and Mia. That was such a messy business and didn't sound at all legal.
    I hope your knee is feeling better now - never good to twist a knee, and more worrying when it's not the original. Barry is still very careful with his knees, eight years after the event.
    Freddie is appreciating his new home. I hope the new chicks are, too.

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    1. Well, she signed the paperwork to give her an extra month to close, so I guess she still means to go ahead at this point.

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    1. Attitudes have certainly changed very quickly. We are a bit dumbfounded.

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  9. Is it Mia scamming you? Be very careful. My radar is up.

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    1. She really can't scam us. We hold the title to the house. She doesn't get it until she signs the paperwork at the lawyer's office. That paper can't be signed until she hands the lawyer a cashier's check from her bank.

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  10. Scam! But have to wonder who is the instigator: someone posing as bank clerk who has duped Mia or someone who Mia found to dupe you? Be very careful!

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    1. She is the real deal, but it does sound very scammy, doesn't it?

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  11. I'm sitting here seething after reading about your situation with the Bank. I've spent over 40 years in the residential appraisal industry and then later, and prior to my retirement, in RE sales. The giggling loan officer for the bank is a) highly incompetent or b) dishonest or c) both. What is not being said is that the appraiser would also have to 'hit the mark' for the increase of $6,000. to the asking/contractual price or a) technically, the loan will not go through or b) pressure will be placed on the appraiser to bring the number UP to what is needed. Highly unethical and a good appraiser who values their license would never do so. Not to mention the 'fart in the room' regarding the addition tax burden of the $6K placed on the Seller which believe it or not, is rarely explained to them nor do most Sellers actually understand this will certainly happen. There are so many other points I'd love to comment on but do not wish to clog up your comments section. But believe me, I've seen a lot of heinous and shady things put forth by lenders in my long career and am delighted to be finally out of it.

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    1. Apparently, buyer credits are a selling tactic nowadays. We offered the house to her at less than half its appraised value. It was just a little shocking that there was a push get an even better deal.

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  12. I'm sorry. My brain does not work like this. I have nothing to offer. You guys sound like you're handling it just fine.

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  13. Good thing you have been through this before and know the proper way to do things. Sounds like someone was trying to scam someone. I hope Mia is not involved but you have handled it well.

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    1. I doubt we will ever know for sure. Mis is no longer speaking to us.

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  14. What a weird situation. It sounds like you handled it well and yeah, next time I'd just say, "Call the lawyer!" It sucks that Mia is upset but I'm betting this woman told her not to speak to you anymore. It sounds like she's up to something but I'm not sure what.

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    1. Well, the lawyer's office has made that very clear to the bank officer.

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  15. I hope you didn't damage the new knee! How is it feeling today?
    By the way.... you didn't answer my question the other day. Did Bob make the move with you?

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    1. Bob is still hanging at the other house. He will come along but he may take a detour to ataxidermist to be refreshed first.

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  16. Wow, that would set off alarm bells for me. I'm glad you knew what you were doing; I might not have since I'm inexperienced with house sales. I hope it's all handled now!

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    1. I guess we will know for sure by Sept 19th. It is just disappointing that what began as an attempt to be kind has turned into us being portrayed as demanding people unwilling to who won't give a break to a poor struggling single mother.

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    2. That part makes me sad and frustrated. As I've sometimes experienced in my life as well, "No good deed goes unpunished." But we have to have kind and giving hearts in spite of that. It's hard.

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  17. Certainly the bank needs a chance to address this illegality on the part of their loan officer; if they don't I assume there is a state regulatory agency that would be interested to hear of the bank colluding in attempted tax evasion and fraud. The next potential victim might not be as savvy as you were.

    Hope the damage to your knee is only short term?

    Ceci

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    1. Evidently this is something that not unheard of, although we had not had experience with. We feel that our asking price was low enough we don't need to offer further enticement.

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  18. That phone call sounds totally scammy, somehow the person on the phone was planning on getting money out of this. It's a shame that I am this suspicious of people, but I am, because that's where we are. How is the new knee after being wrenched?

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    1. I have definitely strained something so I went very easy on it today.

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  19. I'm afraid that I immediately thought "scam" as well!

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  20. Actually, reading up on it, it is called a buyer credit, and it is something done to entice buyers when you have a less than ideal property. The thing the bank person did not seem to understand is that while it still needed the kitchen and bathroom installed, the price was less than 1/2 its appraised value, which in our opinion, atoned for that.

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  21. It sounds to me like the bank person was very unprofessional. I would look into it and make a complaint to her supervisor. It sounds like she was trying to talk Mia into something and may have insinuated that she was protecting her from something you were doing. The giggling was our first clue. SO unprofessional. I am so sorry this happened.
    We have a saying around our house sometimes "No good deed goes unpunished".

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  22. My guestimate is that Mia didn't realise that there are additional costs that she would have to cover that she doesn't have cash for and the lender offered to show her a shortcut.

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  23. We sold a house once and the people wanted to borrow 5000.00 more than they owed us. They wanted to use the money for furniture as they had none. We talked to the bank alone to see how that works. The loan went through and at the closing there were two checks one for us the amount of the sale and one for the buyers. The buyers just had 5000.00 they would need to pay interest on for 30 years. We only did it after talking to the bank and making sure there would be two checks cut for the closing.

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Strange

 A few weeks ago, Mia, the young woman buying our rehab messaged me. The bank official wanted to speak with us, a 3 way call with us, Mia, a...